My own thought is that if you think that picture looks even vaguely masculine, you watch too much anime

Ah, so anime is to blame for driving cody_frost up the wall. ;)

They seem to come in cycles. I guess they were expecting to get a whole sleut of furry fans screaming bloody murder on that livejournal. I'm glad that your readers gave him/her just enough attention to defeat its purpose. The guy may have had good intentions (such as they were) but really his initial post and the follow up, I really doubt it.

Moving on. Moving on.

To be fair, it didn't seem like the owner of the livejournal really didn't have much to say about SJ other than the initial question and the random answers to posts. It was the readers who did most of the bashing. They have their opinion, they're entitled to it. There are many, many webcomics around. Something for everyone.

A little off topic. I find tigers and lions to be especially hard to make to look feminine. Not without making them look like house cats instead. You do a really good job with Tiffany and Leona. :)

You won't please everyone.

As you pointed out years back, Tiffany doesn't look like the underfed waif kind of model, either. She has hips and thighs.

I think that Tiffy looks yummy just as she is.

Yes, it's It's Walky's creator's LJ. I did explore.

I'm amused that David had never heard of SJ or Tiffany before that Newsbox. I mean how many times had it been on before? And it's not you are exactly hiding the strip.

There were some people in that LJ that tried to help you, but most were like the one in the TAC:SJ forum, deriding the strip without even giving it a chance.

Some random comments from the LJ:
"Almost definitely female. God help us all."
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"Surburban jungle sucks, Sorry to say, but its the same as 90% of other furry webcomics.

theres NOTHING there....I swear, those things are one step up from being self insert fanfiction."
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"Because the artist, unlike YOU, doesn't know how to draw very well.

Then again I've never seen you try to draw a perky tiger girl.

You have a mission, David. Do you accept it?"

That last one strikes a nerve, as I believe you are better than David. Well, at least, you have a different style.


Then there is one comment that really takes the cake: From danihana: "That tigeress is me. ;)"

Excuse me! You are not Tiffany Tiger! And you were not the model for that shot or Tiffany!

At least, as far as I know, the Jungloids don't go around logging into other comics forums just to put the comic down. We're, hopefully, above that.

End rant mode.

I didn't copy all of it into my post, just some of the more interesting(?) comments. :=3P

And, as I said as a qualifier, you have a different style.

Man. I just lost a crapload of respect for David Willis. I thought better of him than that. I mean, I'm actually shocked at his attitude. It's one thing to engage in one-artist-to-another critquing of work... but to make ad-hominem attacks and to invite your fans to do the same because it's "fun" to "pick on the furry fans..."

I *loved* "It's Walky." I laughed, cried, followed it every bit as religiously as his other fans.

I'm sorry some people don't dig SJ, but everybody has different taste. I don't particularly care for "Clan of the Cats" or "Wandering Ones" but I would never in a zillion years rag on their artwork or the artist personally (whether I was personally doing it or encouraging my fans to do it in my LJ; I have some experience in being smeared in a supposed friend's LJ while they merely stood by).

I see David's point about not being familiar with the character; without my glasses on and squinting a bit, I saw the newsbox and thought "Tiffany is looking a little tougher than usual". But the manner in which he handled it is completely unexpected. As I said, I am shocked, and his stock just took a *major* hit in my book.

Loxley

Eh. Anyone can have a bad day and say something they might regret later.

I hope that's all it was.

Still, I can't help but think that I tried reading his comic years ago, and just couldn't get into it. I'm further disinclined to do so now.

Oy. You know, some folks just need to get over themselves when it comes to liking or not liking stuff. You know, if you don't like something, and you're gunna post it to your LJ, the least you can do is not go all trollish and post it to said comic's forums. Thats just annoying.

Eh, I don't get it. I personally liked the newsbox. But eh, what do I know? I'm just a webcomic junky who has like 65+ webcomics to read a day. -.-;

Luckily, some of them are M-W-F comics (like SJ). And some of them are sadly, ended (like Kid Radd and NeverNever).

So how many comics I actually read is.. uh.. probably around 40 or so, if I was to take a daily average. Maybe. Its hard to say. But yeah, I still hold true to my words. I'm a silly webcomic junky and my opinions on such are probably slanted.

But even I have some comics I don't read. Some of them I just dislike. Its rare, but I've run into some pretty bad comics out there. And then there's comics like Jack, where I can appreciate the comic from a certain standpoint, but I just don't like to read it because it makes me a VERY sad ferret. Trust me, I tried. I read the first 4 chapters and actually had to stop less I get myself really depressed. Actually, I was really depressed reading the first 4, but I meant even moreso. But if storytelling is about getting your audience to feel emotions, then the comic works very well in that respect.

But I'm rambling. And don't think I don't like Jack. Its just... not the happy Ferret Webcomic I like to read.

Oh, cool. I'm glad that actually came out making sense. ^_^

And thats why I don't watch Red Dawn. Uh, that ending always kills me. ;_;

--Salen

but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Then it tastes like chicken!

/.-, VVolf

Very wise! Last time I bit one, it took forever to get the sewer taste out of my mouth.

Okay, I know I'll get flamed for this, so let me preface by saying that I _like_ SJ, and think the newsbox pic is pretty rocking.

But, the first time I saw that image, before I read about this thread, or about the flames elsewhere...
My first impression, with the text overlaying the image, was "Whoah! That's a different look for Conrad."
Followed by, when the text cleared, "Ohhh, it's Tiffany! Hee. Very agressive pose. Neat pic."

I guess I read too many webcomics. Bishonen Tiff. Hee.

Its probably just the arm position. Those familiar with Tiffany wouldn't make the mistake but the casual person not paying attention might. Eh, either way, no need to beat yourself over it, or let a troll do it to you either. ^_^