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Furries In the Mainstream

It can be done!



But what's the deal with medieval mice? Apparently The Secret of NIMH really imprinted on a lot of would-be writers and artists when they were kids.

-The Gneech


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Feb. 20th, 2007 03:29 pm (UTC)
Hey, what's wrong with Mice with swords? Sure, they're not big cats, but they pack a nasty punch.
Feb. 20th, 2007 05:50 pm (UTC)
It's just something I've noticed. Mice and medieval not-quite-Europe just seem to show up a lot.

Sorta like sexy female skunks. It works, but it's one of those "What would lead you to that?" things.

(no subject) - daemionfox - Feb. 20th, 2007 07:37 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - the_gneech - Feb. 20th, 2007 07:41 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 20th, 2007 03:29 pm (UTC)
Hee hee, where have you been? Mouse Guard has been the indie comic success story for almost all of 2006: They announced early that they sold out of the 8000 copy print run of their first issue, and by the time I got a copy of #1 it was on it's sixth printing. You do the math!

On a more serious note: Compare the gorgeous, full-color art and epic fantasy tale of MG to the clumsy B&W animal-head-on-human-body art and bisexual soap opera plots of most published material that's identified as 'furry comics,' and you'll see that there's a (bleep!) of a long way to go before our pet genre gets REAL mainstream aceeptance...
Feb. 20th, 2007 03:44 pm (UTC)
clumsy B&W animal-head-on-human-body art and bisexual soap opera plots

Just what are you saying, here?

Feb. 20th, 2007 04:39 pm (UTC)
THIS is what I'm saying.

And this.

And oh yeah, Let's not forget about THIS!

Note that I DID say 'published.'

To the comic-buying public the above is what comes to mind when you bring up 'furry comics.' Material like Mouse Guard, Blacksad,
or Elephantmen Are not only not in the same league as the above, they're practically not in the same sport.

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Feb. 20th, 2007 04:05 pm (UTC)
There's a little thing called difference of tastes. Quite frankly, nonhumanoid realistic art bores me to tears. I like CARTOONS, thank you very much. But then, given what passes for overdone CG animated movie hits nowadays versus when Disney was in its heyday, I suppose I'm a dying breed. Sure isn't going to affect what I buy or draw, though.
Feb. 20th, 2007 04:59 pm (UTC)
Can't buy it if they don't publish it. *sigh*
(no subject) - the_gneech - Feb. 20th, 2007 05:42 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 20th, 2007 03:36 pm (UTC)
There's also a contest out there to design a character for the second volume.
Feb. 20th, 2007 03:40 pm (UTC)
Medieval mice? Uh... hrm. Maybe its all Redwall's fault. But I'm not a huge Redwall fan because ferrets are always 'bad and evil'. Even the book, the Outcast of Redwall, which has a main character ferret, I can tell you it won't end well for him just because I know how it'll go. I even asked someone if "Will the Outcast of Redwall end as badly for the ferret as I think it will?" to which I was answered "Yeah, pretty much."

Stop stereotyping ferrets! If anyone's gunna stereotype them, its gunna be me! ^_^

--Salen, a ferret thief... see, I am a stereotype. ^_^;
Feb. 20th, 2007 04:13 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I don't think Petersen was inspired by Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH anywhere near as much as he was inspired by Jacques' Redwall series.

The same thing you mentioned does tend to annoy me a little bit, too. The books are very black and white. "Ferrets bad, mice good!" etc.

(no subject) - rhanlav - Feb. 21st, 2007 02:04 am (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 20th, 2007 05:27 pm (UTC)
That's the same thing that always annoyed my about the Disney films I grew up watching. Except for Aristocats, cats were always the bad guy and dogs were always the good guys. Being a cat person, I was one annoyed 8-year-old.
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Feb. 20th, 2007 07:12 pm (UTC)
I don't think those artists are part of the Fandom.
I know Christian Slade. He is a local artist and just enjoys drawing his dog :) But I am forever foggy on what makes something 'furry' these days. :)
Feb. 20th, 2007 07:23 pm (UTC)
I can never understand why it's an issue. "Furry" = "intelligent character with animal characteristics" as far as I'm concerned. Why split hairs about it?

Fandom or no fandom!

Speaking of art, whatever happened to that project you wanted my input on? :)

Feb. 21st, 2007 04:56 am (UTC)
Seriously! The "fandom" distinction is utterly useless.

"Is this book 'furry'?"
"Oh. I thought it had talking animals in it."
"It does."
"But you just said-"
"The author's not in the fandom."

Plus, wouldn't the flip side of that work the same way (and be equally nonsensical)?

"Is this book 'furry'?"
[Time passes...]
"You lied to me! All these characters are human! It's not furry at all!"
"Yes it is; it was written by Foxclaw of FurryMUCK."
Come to the furry side! We have cookies! - xydexx - Feb. 21st, 2007 08:24 am (UTC) - Expand
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