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Well, as my schedule has opened up a bit, I finally went back and played some more Lord of the Rings Online this week. In an effort to find something a little more interesting than killing the same spiders in the Old Forest for 22 XP apiece because I wasn't high enough level to survive any of my current quests, I decided to just get on the King's Road and see if I get make it to Rivendell.

Short answer, no. I can get over the Last Bridge and a ways into the Trollshaws, and I suppose if I really booked it and got lucky, I might make it to Rivendell before being taken down by a level 40 giant mosquito -- but I didn't feel like pushing my luck.

(Level 40 mosquitoes. Oy. Like I said before, even good MMOs suck.)

However, my journey east did enable me to find another settlement, Ost Guruth, that had a bunch of new quests for me to take on, including meeting Radagast the Brown (always neat when a book character has a cameo -- so far I've met a Black Rider, Aragorn, Gandalf, Elladan, Elrohir, and Dwalin in the game, and Elrond, Thorin, Gimli, and Gloin in flashbacks). Since quests are where the real XP are, this enabled Galadhalion to gain a level (from 22 to 23) -- still not enough to beat my older quests tho, which is irritating. One in particular, called "The Broken Alliance" is a 16th level "fellowship quest," which means I'm supposed to be able to take it on with four or more other players at 16th. But I haven't been able to succeed it solo yet at 22nd or 23rd, and when I teamed up with another 21st level character and tried it, the two of us together also couldn't beat it.

The dumb thing about that is, we walk through everything except the big boss fight at the end stifling yawns -- we're so much higher level than the "mook" encounters that they don't even bother to turn aggro when they see us. But then at the end, we go down in about three rounds. 'tis nuts.

Anyway, I finished all of the quests I could easily finish. Now all that's left are mindless grinder quests, of the "kill 12 spiders, fetch 6 warg teeth" variety. When this is what I've got facing me, my enthusiasm for the game flags quickly. Truth to be told, killing 12 3rd-level spiders and reporting back to the NPC, and killing 12 24th-level spiders and reporting back to the NPC, are just not that different.

Actually, I could see this game being more fun if I had a friend along with me regularly to play it. But the idea of the both of us shelling out the money necessary for that makes me wince. It's not that much fun. If I couldn't find a regular tabletop gaming group, it would make a passable substitute. But only then.

-The Gneech

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goodluckfox
Sep. 21st, 2007 02:58 am (UTC)
May as well be playing Trickster Online. At least it's free.
hossblacksilver
Sep. 21st, 2007 04:01 am (UTC)
My main lament with WoW, I have a number of friends on there with me and I never catch them online.
sirfox
Sep. 21st, 2007 04:16 am (UTC)
Take a while, have a look around for some more folks you could level with. There have to be a few decent folks around your level to do those silly "grind" quests with. Personally, i find a kind of zen in them, but i'm strange like that. A slight inclination towards OCD may also help.
the_gneech
Sep. 21st, 2007 02:39 pm (UTC)
I was in a guild kinship originally, and technically I still am, but I found it to be more of a pain than a help. Most of the members were playing something like 10 hours/day every day of the week and leveling up like there was no tomorrow -- there was no way I could keep up with that even if I wanted to. Plus, there just wasn't much "give and take" with them. I'd offer to do X in exchange for Y, but then when the time for Y came around, they would suddenly discover they had to log off or whatever.

It could just be that particular kinship sucks, I don't know. And I have in mind to leave it, I just haven't bothered to do it yet because I'm out in the wilderness and don't feel like tracking down a kinship notary.

-The Gneech
sirfox
Sep. 21st, 2007 04:56 pm (UTC)
I don't know what the LOTR in-game chat is like, but in WoW there are a number of channels specifically for folks to look/advertise their guilds. It sounds like you are looking for a mature, casual group to run with. Maybe there are some forums to check out?
jamesbarrett
Sep. 21st, 2007 06:11 pm (UTC)
he needs DDO's equivalant of Mac, the mature adventurers club. It's right up the alley he's looking for. -Frisk
jamesbarrett
Sep. 21st, 2007 07:40 am (UTC)
While I may being playing an MMO, just hearing the stuff you say makes me go 'what?" And having played so much DDO now, just hearing the term "lvl 40" anything, let alone a mosquito, makes my brain itch. But yeah, having folks to play with makes a big difference. I have a few friends myself (though half of them wouldn't know it was me as I no longer play the character they met me as). it's my guild that makes the real difference.

of course, I could be more vocal with them and give them more of an idea as to who I am, but we have fun, when we're together. -Frisk "slogging his way through levels 10-14"
the_gneech
Sep. 21st, 2007 02:33 pm (UTC)
From what I gather, DDO hides the 1-50 level structure by putting "tiers" within the levels.

-TG
jamesbarrett
Sep. 21st, 2007 06:06 pm (UTC)
This is true, but if they didn't, you'd never really get to enjoy the game much cause your character would shoot up in level too fast. Much, much too fast. Technically, you gain five levels per level, but there are benefits to that as well as allowing you to see and do more with the game while still keeping the whole D&D feel. It's that feel I like, ya know. -Frisk
kelloggs2066
Sep. 21st, 2007 02:12 pm (UTC)
Okay, maybe my D&D experience is old and long since out of date, but wasn't Lucifer the Devil a level 9 monster?

What the heck would a level 40 mosquito be? One with a black hole in it's mouth?
the_gneech
Sep. 21st, 2007 02:22 pm (UTC)
LOTRO operates on a different scale (as do most MMOs, I gather), where characters range from levels 1-50. However, this is largely just a numbers game.

Level 1 -- The giant mosquito hits you for 2 points of damage, out of your 10 hit points.

Level 20 -- The giant mosquito hits you for 40 points of damage, out of your 200 hit points.

Level 40 -- The giant mosquito hits you for 80 points of damage, out of your 400 hit points.

In other words, it's really the same creature doing the same damage -- but you couldn't have survived it earlier. On the other hand, those giant mosquitoes who kicked your butt back in the Shire can't really touch you now that you're high enough level to go to the Trollshaws.

-The Gneech
laurie_robey
Sep. 21st, 2007 03:28 pm (UTC)
A level 40 mosquito would be the ones we have in our backyard. ;)
kelloggs2066
Sep. 21st, 2007 03:42 pm (UTC)
I'm just trying to imagine something that's 4+ times more powerful than someone who's an even match for God.
the_gneech
Sep. 21st, 2007 04:49 pm (UTC)
a) You're mixing your paradigms.

b) Lucifer ain't an even match for God even in D&D, but that's a side-issue.

b) I don't think Lucifer per se was ever 9th level. Asmodeus in contemporary D&D terms is 60th level and a god, making him (among other things) unkillable except by another god of higher rank. In LOTRO terms, that would make him 150th level at the very least.

In comparison, a 40th level mosquito ain't so tough.

I'd have to dig out my older D&D books to get stats from previous editions, but even in the heady days of 1979 one didn't just whomp on the king of hell as if he were just another monster.

-The Gneech
the_gneech
Sep. 21st, 2007 04:50 pm (UTC)
Er, "c) I don't think...(etc.)" not "b)".

-TG
kelloggs2066
Sep. 21st, 2007 05:07 pm (UTC)
Believe me, AD&D was a loooong time ago for me.
At this point we're not so much arguing What my memory about Monster Stats is, we're just haggling over the Price. ;)

Nevertheless, imagine the cognative dissonance that normal people would experience if they ran into a Mosquito that is 4 times more powerful than the Ultimate Lord of Darkness.

I imagine such a mosquito would have a supermassive black hole in its gut and it would feed on entire galaxies...
the_gneech
Sep. 21st, 2007 05:11 pm (UTC)
...and probably appeared in Marvel Comics c. 1974.

-The Gneech
kelloggs2066
Sep. 21st, 2007 03:49 pm (UTC)
...And it's a Mosquito...
the_gneech
Sep. 21st, 2007 04:59 pm (UTC)
Well, here's the specific critter I was referring to:

http://lotro.warcry.com/db/monster/1579-Stinging%20Moor-fly

The scale of the picture is probably hard to make out, but it's about 3' long and sorta superficially resembles a mosquito. Closer to a wasp, actually. But a 40th level wasp doesn't really make much sense either.

-TG
grifter_t_wolf
Sep. 21st, 2007 05:55 pm (UTC)
*poke, poke, poke* WoW, WoW, WoW (inserts subliminal messaging as well as liminal) WOWWOWOWWOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOOWOWOW!
the_gneech
Sep. 21st, 2007 06:00 pm (UTC)
Tried WoW, didn't like it. Sorry! The only reason I can stand LOTRO is because it's set in Middle Earth.

-TG
kamau_d_lyon
Sep. 21st, 2007 11:30 pm (UTC)
I still say part of the reason you got a bad taste for WoW was that we never got you out of that start up area. That and all the brats that just didn't want to take NO for an answer about your wanting to duel.

Smrgol and I really should have somehow gotten on and whomped the brats while you leveled up and got to the real fun. Oh well, too late now I guess from what you're saying.
kamau_d_lyon
Sep. 21st, 2007 11:37 pm (UTC)
Actually, I could see this game being more fun if I had a friend along with me regularly to play it. But the idea of the both of us shelling out the money necessary for that makes me wince. It's not that much fun. If I couldn't find a regular tabletop gaming group, it would make a passable substitute.

Part of the reason I got on WoW was that I didn't have a regular gaming group and it seemed a good alternative. Still the way my schedule has gone lately it's been months since I've gotten on. I'm going to have a whole lot of relearning to do once I can log on again. If it were not for knowing how I can get backlogged I might offer to get on with you but seeing Smrgol is still waiting for me to get back in WoW it certainly wouldn't be fair to any of us.

Gad! Did that make any sense at all?
katayamma
Sep. 22nd, 2007 11:45 pm (UTC)
You can make the run to Rivendell as long as you DO NOT STOP MOVING and try to keep your distance around some mobs. You can also find a high level hunter (in your guild?) and see if they'll give you a port. =^_^=

Cheers
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