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Not Eager So Far...

From m0nkeygrl: Dark Knight Teaser II. Very wary of this Joker portrayal. The Joker needs to skim a very fine line between "completely absurd" and "WTF scary" -- this movie seems to be going for "Jack the Ripper meets Cirque de Soliel," which is 99.5% wrong. Really, if done well, the Joker should be somebody who would almost be fun to hang out with, if it weren't for the fact that he keeps killing people.

I also notice Two-Face showing up at the end. Wonder what that's about. Lead-in to Movie III, perhaps.

-The Gneech


EDIT: Nevermind, it was a fake. The pic released of Heath Ledger before was real enough, I'm sad to say. Still looks wrong.

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m0nkeygrl
Sep. 28th, 2007 02:57 pm (UTC)
The official site for the movie doesn't have anything but a batman logo that links to this. So even though the trailer is a fake, I still expect Two Face to be in the next movie.
camelai
Sep. 28th, 2007 06:13 pm (UTC)
You're partly right. I believe Harvey Dent is supposed to be in the next movie (that is, Two Face before he became Two Face). That's why this fake trailer used shots from Thank You For Smoking... same guy is going to play Harvey Dent, DA.
m0nkeygrl
Sep. 28th, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC)
By "next movie" I meant "movie after the one being made". :D I make no sense, I know.
camelai
Sep. 28th, 2007 06:50 pm (UTC)
Oh! Yes, in that case, I believe you are right. :)
mouser
Sep. 28th, 2007 03:02 pm (UTC)
Generally trailers for new movies have FEW if ANY scenes from old movies, instead of ALL the shots of the principles being old shots.

This is, indeed, a fake.
rogue_richek
Sep. 28th, 2007 07:24 pm (UTC)
I think a few common mistakes people make when they look at the new batman movies is to 1) compare them to the Tim Burton films, and 2) to think of both Batman and the other characters in terms of their comic book counterparts.

This isnt golden age batman, nor is it even silver age. The movies have a kind of odd combonation of Dark Knight and Post-Crisis histories. This Bruce Wayne is nearly identical to Frank Miller's in the Batman: Year One series and as such many of the villans have a slightly darker image. I love how they handled Scarecrow in the last movie, if only for the fact that he was a believable sociopathic psychiatrist. The Joker is a homicidal sociopath with one hell of a case of bi-polar.

I seem to recall that Nicholas' Joker in the Tim Burton version was less then friendly too, and certainly not someone that it would be great to spend a few hours with. To say that they've messed it up just by looking at he all of ONE production photo of the new Joker they've put out is a little baseless. They've kept the production of this one under tight lips for a good reason: this is one of the most, if not the most recognizable villain in comic books. They have a lot to lose by screwing it up.
the_gneech
Sep. 28th, 2007 07:42 pm (UTC)
Well, what I've said is that I'm dubious -- I'm still willing to be pleasantly surprised. I was dubious of Michael Keaton as Batman, too, but he was fine, so we'll see.

When I think of the Joker, I think primarily of the one in "The Laughing Fish"/"The Sign of the Joker" from Shadow of the Bat-Man, who does things like looks around frantically and says, "Where? Where?" when somebody cries out "My God!"

Jack Nicholson was a passable Joker, although to be honest I preferred Cesar Romero once you forgave the moustache.

-The Gneech
rogue_richek
Sep. 28th, 2007 09:04 pm (UTC)
Just between you and I, I never really saw the appeal of the 80s/90s Batman movies. I always thought that they just took the camp of the 60s and threw some eye liner and goth hair styles on it.

That aside, I do agree. I'm dubious as well, but considering the fact that Nolan has shown that he is more then willing to give the story a serious approach, I'm a bit more complacent then most would be.
catsnightmare
Sep. 29th, 2007 10:02 pm (UTC)
Did you even watch the first two? Joel Schumacher did exactly what you described with the last two Batman movies he directed, and basically ruined the franchise. But I have to disagree with you on the first two Burton-directed movies. No 60's camp there, just some good twisted dark humor, especially in Batman Returns.
rogue_richek
Sep. 29th, 2007 11:38 pm (UTC)
I have seen them all, and while I like the Burton versions, they're still full of cheese. The only difference is the fact that its slightly darker cheese.

And everything aside, theres no need to get militant. After all, they're just words on a screen representing one person's opinion.
exatron
Sep. 29th, 2007 02:45 am (UTC)
Maybe we'll get lucky and this Joker will be similar to Mark Hamil's. He managed to strike a good balance between silly and sadistic, and got really close to the comic version in "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker".
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