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I asked susandeer to assist me with Tiffany's redesign, on the grounds that Sue is awesome at that kind of thing, and of course she's been exceeding my expectations as always. :) So tonight I decided to try a potential Tiffany model incorporating Sue's ideas as well as a few of my own, if nothing else to see if I could pull it off.

Tiffany Tiger With Sue's Influences

What do you think, does it work?

-The Gneech


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Feb. 7th, 2009 04:13 am (UTC)
I'd say it works and a half!
Feb. 7th, 2009 04:40 am (UTC)
I don't see it, not as black and white like this. Makes her look like a beerslam between a Indian goddess (thanks to the eyes) and a clown.

Throw in some color for full effect, I say :) Though it might just be me.
Feb. 7th, 2009 05:43 am (UTC)
Nah, I agree. It just doesn't look right.
Feb. 7th, 2009 04:51 am (UTC)
If I saw that out of contexy I would not say Tiffany Tiger bay Gneech... but than again I'v been drinking so what do I know?
Feb. 7th, 2009 05:34 am (UTC)
Spiffy! She looks even more glamourous than before. I like the hair redesign!

>.> And what of Leona, hm? She's not been in the spotlight nearly enough!
Feb. 7th, 2009 02:44 pm (UTC)
Hush, she'll get her chance. ;P

Feb. 7th, 2009 05:40 am (UTC)
She doesn't work yet, but she could.

Right now, the image looks less than three-dimensional -- and too detailed to be two-dimensional. Right now, she looks more like she's wearing the top half of a mask rather than a person.

Compare the lines around Tiffany's nose against this reference picture. The lines around her nose go up (looking like a higher-quality half mask than this image) when they should define her muzzle.

Finally, remember: I'm not an artist. You, not I, decide what's right for Tiffany.
Feb. 7th, 2009 02:29 pm (UTC)
Heh. :) I can see what you're getting at.

Feb. 7th, 2009 05:46 am (UTC)
What I'd like to see: Build lines. They might not be obvious from my sketches, because they're light, but I don't really see them here. It looks like you've gone straight to drawing the finishing lines, which will cause you to miss out on a more dimensional look.

Now, that being said, I like what you're doing with the striping and I've visual confirmation of the proportion for the features. Ignore the clown comment. That's only because you're using a line that too closely mimics her smile to differentiate the orange areas from the white. Once you wrap your pencil around the structure, you'll be better able to lay the striping and color changes over it.

Keep at it! @:)
Feb. 7th, 2009 08:14 am (UTC)
I agree with this comment. I can't really see how this design would work at different angles as much as the old design. Perhaps it's a failure of my imagination, but that's my problem.

I do *like* the new design. It's different, especially around the eyes. I think that's the way I'd want *my* picture done. :)
(no subject) - the_gneech - Feb. 7th, 2009 02:33 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 7th, 2009 06:13 am (UTC)
The previous version of Tiffany had bigger hair...this version seems less defined by her mane.
Feb. 7th, 2009 07:30 am (UTC)
It doesn't seem quite Tiffany to me, I fear. I'm not sure why -- possibly, it's too stylized, and a little too... ethereal? Delicate? Dare I say... girly?

For me, Tiffany has always been very much a TIGER. One of her strengths, both visually and personally, is, in fact, her strength, like Power Girl. Her role as "Kitten Kaboodle" always brought actresses like Sigourney Weaver or Angelina Jolie to mind more than Jane Fonda's Barbarella.

Tiff's not a "girly" kind of "pretty". She's a strong kind of beautiful.
Feb. 7th, 2009 07:31 am (UTC)

I, for one, like the eyes. They look rather Siberian, not Indian (glances at the hyena above).

Tiffany's a successful model/actor now. She deserves to look more like that than your jane-schmoe geekless drone, working for Megahuge.

Feb. 7th, 2009 08:57 am (UTC)
Absolutamente Fantastico!
Feb. 7th, 2009 09:23 am (UTC)
She looks older in this interpretation - appropriate, as she's aged since the comic began. This look would take some getting used to for those of us used to the old style, but I think it works!
Feb. 7th, 2009 09:29 am (UTC)
To me, that's not Tiffany.
Feb. 7th, 2009 10:33 am (UTC)
My first thought, honestly? Shades of Catena Manor.

I'm torn...but then again, it is 4:30 here...
Feb. 7th, 2009 02:38 pm (UTC)
Is it the eyes?

(no subject) - hbar98 - Feb. 7th, 2009 05:24 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 7th, 2009 10:54 am (UTC)
I'd like to see a few different expressions first.
Feb. 7th, 2009 12:14 pm (UTC)
Take this with a grain of salt, Gneech. I have NO artistic experience.

Having said that, this sketch seems to have lost a lot of what we've come to expect from Tiffany. She looks harder, more professional, much less approachable. Instead of Natural good looks, she looks a lot more quaffed and stylized. She's much more feminine and lost a lot of the broad shoulder that Wen liked to ride on. It might be the broad strokes you've used more so then actual style differences that make it stand out more.

This version of Tiff strikes me as better suited for the story series and new 32 page format you've talked about going to, rather then the 3-day a week strip format. If that's what you're prepping for, you've hit it right in the head.

(And finally, on a first impression note, She looks beautiful but...a bitch. The expression there is of someone who knows she's beautiful, and is prepared to do anything it takes to get her way. Not the confused and slightly naive but still pretty model we've some to expect. I think the expression and hard lines would look better as a portfolio shot of either Glory or Leona.)

Just my impression.
Feb. 7th, 2009 02:41 pm (UTC)
The expression there is of someone who knows she's beautiful, and is prepared to do anything it takes to get her way.

Hmm ... I was aiming for a Spock-eyebrow reaction to one of Leonard's snarky comebacks, actually. I'll play around with it and see if I can come up with a friendlier look.

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