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rhanlav
Apr. 22nd, 2010 04:25 pm (UTC)
Jamie wants BIG BOOM!

--Salen
jim_ghote
Apr. 22nd, 2010 04:34 pm (UTC)
Until you can make a new universe with one, its just not quite big enough!
radbaron
Apr. 22nd, 2010 05:24 pm (UTC)

So THATS what happens when you use the Illudium Pew 36 explosive Space Modulator.
torakiyoshi
Apr. 22nd, 2010 05:56 pm (UTC)
Or will that be what happens when CERN fires up the LHC to full power?

-=TK
shockwave77598
Apr. 22nd, 2010 06:19 pm (UTC)
Oh please...
athelind
Apr. 22nd, 2010 08:29 pm (UTC)
hossblacksilver
Apr. 22nd, 2010 10:57 pm (UTC)
I believe my home convention has managed to get her as a media guest this year (along with Richard Hatch).
torakiyoshi
Apr. 23rd, 2010 03:56 am (UTC)
<3 <3 <3

When is this convention, where is this convention, and can I come visit you that weekend?

-=TK
hossblacksilver
Apr. 23rd, 2010 07:59 am (UTC)
http://www.concarolinas.org/cc_guests.php

And the thing is, I tend to commute in to the convention.
torakiyoshi
Apr. 23rd, 2010 03:54 am (UTC)
*Giggles*



-=TK
camstone
Apr. 23rd, 2010 04:04 am (UTC)
Nah, that huge sucking sound at this time of the month was just the IRS inhaling... XD
the_gneech
Apr. 22nd, 2010 11:09 pm (UTC)
No tacky jokes about the giant hardon hadron collider! This is a family show.

-The Gneech
camstone
Apr. 23rd, 2010 03:33 am (UTC)
So if black holes the "Inny" of the universe's belly button... what would be the outty?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
torakiyoshi
Apr. 23rd, 2010 03:56 am (UTC)
Perish the thought!

(Wouldn't have even occurred to me had you not said that. Honestly!)

-=TK
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jim_ghote
Apr. 22nd, 2010 06:31 pm (UTC)
Absolutely.
hossblacksilver
Apr. 22nd, 2010 10:55 pm (UTC)
Fascinating article, though unless I read it wrong, it seems that it made contradictory statements in it. We get The entire star explodes. No neutron star, no black hole, nothing left behind but an expanding cloud of newly radioactive material and empty space where once was the most massive item you can actually have without ripping space. and then a few paragraphs down we are then told What is almost certain is that the core of the star involved in a given hypernova is massive enough to collapse into a black hole (rather than a neutron star). So every GRB detected is also the "birth cry" of a new black hole. So, the question this backyard sky watcher is left with for the professional astronomer is which is it, does a hypernova GRB cause a gravitational singularity or not?
the_gneech
Apr. 22nd, 2010 11:08 pm (UTC)
I was wondering about that myself. Maybe after the initial explosion, the debris collapses back into a black hole?

I also wish we had a scale on that photo. Is it AUs across? Light-years? Parsecs?

-The Gneech
camstone
Apr. 23rd, 2010 03:51 am (UTC)
Unconfirmed... but ~150 AU's by one account I saw.
hossblacksilver
Apr. 23rd, 2010 06:40 am (UTC)
Vun Parsec, Sir. Close enough to smell them.
the_mcp
Apr. 23rd, 2010 08:20 pm (UTC)
"That is illogical, ensign. Odors cannot travel through the vacuum of space."
camstone
Apr. 23rd, 2010 03:40 am (UTC)
No. A hypernova GRB is not a pre-requisite or requirement. The key is the mass involved, and -how- the collapse occurs. There were some of the technical details in there, but you have to study some fairly sophisticated physics to understand how it actually occurs. In essence, the "mix" has to be right for the conditions for a black hole collapse, or the hypernova GRB - and otherwise you get the neutron star as a result.
hossblacksilver
Apr. 23rd, 2010 07:54 am (UTC)
I understand that, the mass of the star is the indicator of what it will do, this big it compacts down to a neutron star, this big and it becomes a black hole. And I'm aware that the larger the star, the shorter the life span it has. But they're saying first off that the Burst doesn't leave anything neutron star, singularity, just a cloud of (exotic?) radioactive gases. Then they turn around and (seems to me) contradict themselves and say the hypernova GRB forms a black hole. So, what? Is this Schrödinger's Star and no one mentioned it in the article?
camstone
Apr. 23rd, 2010 12:01 pm (UTC)
Having a flashback from Monty Python: "He's not dead yet!"

But not Schrödinger's cat either. The physics are not linear and I do not have the pre-requisite knowledge to do it justice, unfortunately.
dhlawrence
Apr. 23rd, 2010 02:06 am (UTC)
The colour on that image is fantastic, even if it has been filtered.
camstone
Apr. 23rd, 2010 04:01 am (UTC)
The image is a composite from the Chandra X-Ray observatory in high earth orbit.

From: http://www.cfa.harvard.edu./hea/ea/sr.html

"...red represents low-energy X-rays (mostly oxygen) which has been heated by the blast wave from the supernova. Yellow and green represent higher energy X-rays which are produced from heavier elements, such as iron. The blue corresponds to nonthermal synchrotron emission which is primarily generated at the shock front as the blast wave expands into the surrounding material."
camstone
Apr. 23rd, 2010 03:31 am (UTC)
Oh, the thoughts that run through my head...
"But... where is the earth shattering Ka-boom... there is supposed to be an Earth Shattering kaboom."

"Oh bother."

But thanks, it's so nice to be so remembered!!!! I feel honored!!!

=)

The entire star explodes. No neutron star, no black hole, nothing left behind but an expanding cloud of newly radioactive material and empty space where once was the most massive item you can actually have without ripping space. The explosion alone triggers alchemy on a suprasolar scale, converting stars' worth of matter into new radioactive elements.

THAT'S WHAT I'm TALKIN ABOUT... BOYZ - DAH-YAM.
hossblacksilver
Apr. 23rd, 2010 10:41 pm (UTC)
Re: Oh, the thoughts that run through my head...
Puh-lease, everyone knows that it was actually the Vorgon contructor fleet. ;)
invisiblewolf
Apr. 23rd, 2010 04:24 am (UTC)
Totally cool and awesome. :-)

-Spiritwolf.
c_eagle
Apr. 23rd, 2010 09:04 am (UTC)
Belly button lint + Photoshop! ;D
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